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Eureka ([personal profile] idkmybffnirvash) wrote2013-11-29 12:13 pm

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It's been three months, shh. So, that means it is time for a question meme for Luna/Eureka, Persephone, Dream, and Dorian Gray. Good end characters are okay, too. ♥

[personal profile] ipse_dixit 2013-11-29 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
relationship me tho

[personal profile] ipse_dixit 2013-12-02 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Hheeee really likes Eureka. Akashi is a little . . . bad at people in a lot of ways. He's very hands off and very logical and very blunt about some things and then very distant and obtuse in others. He wants friends and he loves friends and being with people. But he's bad at it. Well, not so much bad as there is a big distance/wall between him and other people.

Bbbbut with Eureka he doesn't feel that kind of immense pressure. He's less hesitant and less withdrawn with her because he doesn't feel the stress of having to make The Right Choice.

Beyond that Eureka isn't rowdy. She's quiet but not mute. She's smart but not in a way that makes him feel like he needs to challenge her. He has a really legitimate crush on her and -- he's fairly sure their expectations of what a date are . . . are different and he's a little unsure if he should go with his view or try to guess for hers but he would really like to do the best. . . have the best date with her basically.

It's really dumb and sugary.

How are Eureka and Amethyst doing?

[personal profile] ipse_dixit 2013-12-06 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
He's okay with Aather, to be honest. It's not what he's used to but he has a team and a goal and he's determined.

Hhhhheeee is irritated that his canonmates won't tell him things though. And it's extra irritating because he remembered his second personality taking over before he gained back the skill so it was just a weird disjoint of WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON and everyone played footsie but no real outcome with talking about it.

Nnnoowww he's less irritated and more just :') Oh. :') thanks guys. Because . . . like. We haven't gotten any news on how the 2 Akashis interact or think about each other and I kind of doubt we ever will?? But in Aather the second Akashi doesn't give him the same kind of reassurance and comfort as it did back home bc the situation is different so it's just. . . exasperating. . .

He feels exasperated and annoyed at himself for not being strong enough for certain things or better at everything and not being THE BEST AND MOST ABSOLUTE and a little lost because of that but yeah. Akashi. What are you gonna do.

What are Eureka's plans for when she wins?
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[personal profile] surefire 2013-11-29 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Questions, questions... How are Eureka's adventures with morals continuing?
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[personal profile] doublefaced 2013-11-29 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Lambda has not been up to a lot that I can recall...! She remembered being dead before she came to Aather, but she was able to take it more or less in stride, because she had basically already settled on starting over anyway. She was in Mira's game, of course, and while she didn't really care a fig about it, Cal is possibly trying to rope her into a revenge plot of some sort... SO WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT GOES... But things have been mostly pretty quiet for her lately otherwise.

So, are you apping this coming round?
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[personal profile] surefire 2013-11-30 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
I cannot, because I already have a third in queue! Ryuuguu Rena from Higurashi no Naku Koro ni. (Yes, I'm gonna play from both Umineko and Higurashi... I'm gonna be That Person...) I'm very, very excited for her, though it will probably still be a little while because of team placement requests.

Any team placement thoughts for Zen?
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[personal profile] doublefaced 2013-11-30 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I am biased to the visual novels over the anime because they give a lot more insight to the characters and mystery, but the novels admittedly are harder to get into at first and it was the anime I originally fell in love with a few years ago, so I still think the anime works as a standalone! And I definitely, definitely recommend the series in some form. The story can be a little silly at times, but on the whole is pretty intriguing and the main cast is all fabulous and has their own demons they each struggle with. It's basically a horror/suspense/mystery story crossed with themes about friendship as well as sins and forgiveness, so if you think that might be your thing, it's definitely worth a shot, at least! And the whole series can be found uploaded for streaming, so there's that.
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[personal profile] surefire 2013-12-01 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
The visual novel is pretty easy if you get the download link for it, I think; Ryukishi's novels don't have choices or anything, so it's pretty much just clicking through and reading. But now that you mention it, I haven't read through the whole thing, but the manga was a pretty good adaptation from what I read of it! Though the manga is split up by arc, so just for reference if you do read, you'll want to go in the order of Onikakushi > Watanagashi > Tatarigoroshi > Himatsubushi > Meakashi > Tsumihoroboshi > Minagoroshi > Matsuribayashi.
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[personal profile] silverbulletkun 2013-11-29 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
do you love me luna
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[personal profile] silverbulletkun 2013-11-30 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
WELL. Solstice has definitely gotten a better handle on understanding and talking to Luna that he used to, even if he's still pretty /fishhands about her sometimes. He's never disliked her, though her choices and reasoning in Pandora's game really bugged him and while he's not bringing it up again under the assumption that she's learned from the experience, he's still a little wary of the things she does and says. Just in case.

The thing about Solstice is that he actually cares a lot about people and his friends, with that being Amethyst in this case, but he doesn't express it in a way that anyone on Amethyst really gets. Part of it is that he's bad at expressing it, another part is that he doesn't want to openly express it under normal circumstances, and the third part of it is that being offhand rude and tsun is one way that he shows he feels close enough to you to be that casual. Except that often blows up in his face because in Aather that tends to get translated as just being rude and he keeps legitimately pissing people off when he was just trying to talk to them. :'D

TL;DR Sol is fond of Luna and wants to live up to her expectations of him, but his own personality keeps getting in the way. He has changed over time in efforts to adapt- that's how he got to where he was actually trying to listen to and find out what Luna wanted instead of just telling her things, and he's been making a conscious effort to be more frank with his team- but he still has a ways to go, unless more people learn to translate his tsun.

He also wishes he could make her understand where he's coming from when he talks about morals. He doesn't want to see her developing in any pro-murder ways (if only he knew...)

I'm still fairly canonblind to Eureka 7, tell me about Nirvash?
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[personal profile] heavens_mirror 2013-12-02 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
HE'S... doing not as bad as he could be. I mean, obviously no one was okay with the axes fell everyone died thing at the beginning, but it was so quick and so unusual what with the disembodiment thing that as far as first deaths go that he felt almost disconnected from it- taking the poison that shrunk him felt more like dying than this, and seeing dead bodies is unsettling but nothing new for him- and he was immediately too busy focusing on everyone else. So he's actually not to bothered by that- at least not right now. It's something that could come back to haunt him in nightmares and if he ever takes the time to think more deeply about it (but he doesn't really want to in this case, of course).

But then everything in the game was a trap and it's like. Okay, so he knew Mira was really shitty and harmful, but she hadn't actually done anything super subversive in her games that he'd seen. Until now, whiiich just means the list of reasons to be wary of her keeps growing. This is technically the third game of hers he's been in- there was the parasite elevator game, corrupted heart games, and now this one. At this point he almost wants to see if he can't ask Guinevere if anything can be done about her, but seeing as nothing has been done up to this point he's not expecting a positive response. Even with the Snow Queen they couldn't confront her directly to stop her, and that's still sort of going on, so.

tl;dr this game wasn't as bad for Sol as her previous two games, but it pissed him off and pressed his powerlessness buttons a bit (including the relatively new ones that came with his shrunken status regain). And he recognizes that it was really shitty for everyone else since Lyra was new and he was the only one out of their team present that had been in her parasite game, which as opposed to SUDDEN DEATH FROM ABOVE was like... teams choosing who dies and then they die horrible gruesome deaths of creatures bursting out of their skin while everyone watches. For Sol his trauma buttons lie more in who's doing the killing, inability to save others, and, well, parasites. thanks mira.

I saw a thread of Luna talking to Jill about questing to forget things, what was that all about?
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[personal profile] silverbulletkun 2013-12-06 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of the helplessness/powerlessness stems from trauma games (namely that first trauma game with Mira), though there have been some games that weren't trauma/not heavy trauma that pushed that issue too. Marjory's game, which was just an exploradora though it revealed her and june's story of woo parents murdering and eating their children, was what really first made him have to face and somehow come to terms with the sort of... intangible "roles" of the Personae. That was essentially investigating a crime scene, but because of the nature of their roles, it's like. Did this murder really happen, or was it just a story? How do we know what's real and what's just a part of the curse, it's clearly real to Marjory but how do we bring murderers to justice when they may not even exist?? He had a bit of a mini crisis over that which ultimately ended in his decision to stay in Aather until they'd stopped the Darkness and broken the curse.

So I suppose in general it has to do with the way Aather is structured, and the way it isn't structured. There's obviously no police force or set of written laws here, and while there is still a semblance of order thanks to what structure it does have, it's still rather chaotic because ultimately it's the Personae and their magic that controls everything, which they don't even have complete control over. And while there are Personae who are open to cooperating with the heroes and knights, there are also Personae like Mother and Pandora and Mira. Then there's magic itself, something he has never encountered before and which cannot always be predicted, controlled, or picked apart through logic alone. Magic breaks deduction because "when you have eliminated the impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." Logical deduction is based around the fact that some things are impossible and therefore can't be the truth, but insert magic and suddenly you can't say for certain anymore that anything is impossible. Magic in Aather does tend to have rules that can then be worked with logically, but those are generally discovered through trial and error and on a case by case basis, so you can't be like "X is always true and Y is always false." As a genius of deduction, this is pretty crippling for him because it means one of his strongest skills is often rendered useless, inadequate, or just plain incorrect- combined with games where there is no way to avoid negative consequences even through inaction because magic, it's a kind of powerlessness he never felt before Aather. He's used to being able to get out of even the most dire of situations with minimal losses just by being clever, even if it means doing something dumb and risky- but in Aather there are times when there just is no miraculous third option that saves everyone.

I COULD PROBABLY TL;DR MORE IF I THOUGHT REALLY HARD ABOUT IT but that's probably enough for now. What are Luna's thoughts on Sol's change (and his keeping it a secret/talking about it once it happened), did her view of him change at all?
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[personal profile] silverbulletkun 2013-12-06 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
he tried okay

Sol hasn't had any romance (that he remembers yet) cries. The only sort of exceptions would be secretly dokidoki-ing at Ran a lot in his memories (and her dokidoki-ing about him thinking he's not there oops) and accidentally getting drawn into Kira's love spell when the finger trap that helped suppress it got stolen.

does luna even romance...??
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[personal profile] longsufferance 2013-12-07 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have a lot to keep secret about her, at least not at the moment, she's fairly open! Also it's my first time playing an NPC aaaaaaaa. I didn't stray too far from the story, although I did a little looking around at interpretations when I was thinking of apping her. It seems like the most common are that the tree and boy's relationship was either mother and child, friends, or romantic. I sorta mashed a bit of all those together, but also with my own interpretation which is that the tree is something like a child herself. After all, all she wants is to play with someone. But she's also motherly and a... very giving friend. I'd paste some of her affinities here if I weren't typing this from my phone, but her domain is unconditional love, with emphasis on the unconditional. Some of her affinities are platonic love, patience, childhood nostalgia, self-sacrifice for others, and forests. Her focus is more on the emotional side of love, regardless of the type of love (romantic/familial/friend etc). I expect that she could reach a point where she runs out of power because she's given too much away, which without any outside influence she wouldn't really do anything about; the only thing she asks of anyone is to spend time with her and play with her and be happy. So I hope that knights and heroes will influence her and see where that goes. I also imagine her games will be simple fun things like some forms of apple picking and hide and seek.

I think her actual tree body will be in her pocket realm. She appears as the girl in my icons to communicate and move, but that form can't be touched. She also has a nostalgic scent/presence, like apples and forest kind of nostalgic.

Essentially she'll be kind and gentle and giving, but also playful and nostalgic, and her main flaws would be her inability to keep anything for herself and lack of comprehension of larger issues because all she wants is for people to Be Happy and her solution to that is to give things. I imagine I'll figure more stuff out once I actually get the chance to play her.

I don't think I know much about Persephone, tell me stuff about her?
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[personal profile] itsjustafayz 2013-11-29 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
how are we doing after the cry wolf game 8|
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[personal profile] itsjustafayz 2013-11-30 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
PRETTY MUCH THE SAME TOO

When Breeze first started approaching Eureka she did it mainly because they looked to be around the same age, and she was trying to make friends. For a while she didn't think Eureka liked her, so she tried not to bother her, but Eureka did keep approaching her, so at this point she feels like they're... okay? She knows she's never going to be awesome friends with Eureka and she doesn't have a problem with that, and she doesn't really think Eureka is capable of having real friends anyway. But she doesn't want Eureka to dislike her. Also she likes explaining things to Eureka. It makes her feel important. (So everything that happened in the cry wolf game was kind of humiliating, but... water off a duck's back!!1)
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[personal profile] appleofhiseye 2013-11-29 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Relationship me??
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[personal profile] appleofhiseye 2013-12-02 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I DID MEAN HARUKI yes

I am also probably not going to be able to put this into proper words, but I can try gosh darnit. He can mostly parse how she puts together her thoughts and at times he is just making guesses and assumptions as to her thought process, but back at the very beginning when she first arrived and he figured out that she was a very, very blank slate he wanted to make sure that she could understand! He would struggle with it a lot more if she wasn’t so…herself? But they mesh very well so he has a much easier time of it. There have been a lot of times where he’s been tempted to guide her into a certain way of thinking but for the most part he has been good at catching himself and adding in a qualifier of “this is how I think but it is not how you have to think.” I think…for the most part he has been good about not imposing his will upon her…he just vents at Eclipse instead \o/ It helps that he doesn’t think of her as a child; a child could be easily influenced and swayed but she has enough awareness of her surroundings that he knows he couldn’t impose anything on her without it backfiring as she gets memories back. And he knows that they have a lot of similarities in how they want to approach games except he has more feelings and emotional hangups about things, so he knows she will be there to remind him to Get Things Done. It is just super easy for him and every time she does things he’s just I’M SO PROUD OF YOU, GOOD GIRL.

Hmmm do you have any plans for your characters? THIS INCLUDES PERSONAE
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[personal profile] fourthsaken 2013-11-29 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Relationship me!
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[personal profile] phantompass 2013-11-30 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
UHO RELATIONSHIP
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[personal profile] detectivewonder 2013-11-30 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Any notable updates in my favorite ongoing miscommunication / surrogate siblinghood ?
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[personal profile] detectivewonder 2013-11-30 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Over the past few games, from Eclipse's point of view, Luna's really come into her own in her take-charge tactical way. He's starting to see her as more of an equal and less of a little sister figure, especially because she's generally doing a better job covering up some of her ongoing confusions or frustrations than she used to. I think he probably perceives her as having come farther than she maybe has, and he's very blind to a lot of her concerns... which is unfortunate, as he's becoming more flexible lately and would be much more supportive of her pursuing her own path & not just assimilating. The misunderstandings just kind of pile up...

Also, because he knows Luna worries when he vanishes off by himself... he's NOT going to do that this time, even if it might do him some good, and will in fact probably stick fairly close to her as much as he can.
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[personal profile] detectivewonder 2013-12-01 12:55 am (UTC)(link)

... at some point I should try to coherently put together Eclipse's evolving feelings on the usage of violence. One of the really interesting things about amnesia games is how they can accelerate various character arcs - people change very quickly when they suddenly get memories reinforcing the way they were going anyway. TL;DR Eclipse isn't quite as anti-violence as he used to loudly proclaim, but he hasn't mentioned it to anyone yet because he's not comfortable with feeling that way.

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[personal profile] detectivewonder 2013-12-01 12:59 am (UTC)(link)

I'm not yet sure how having died is going to effect his views on that, but it's at least possible that he'll wind up in perfect agreement with her.